My 8 yr old Doman Kid was accepted to College!!!! Share your success stories

Mandy, are you able to share what you did with your children when they were 2?

Sure, up until they were 4, I did nothing but DOMAN. I started supplementing Doman with Shichida and Right Brain kids and then added the curriculum i.e. Stories of the World, Singapore, Aloha. But if you Doman correctly i.e. only 30 bits of intelligence at a time, the reading, the math and the physical education, there really isn’t time for much more. I followed it by the book. I still have the binders of when they reached their different milestones. I wish I could say it was all me but that is exactly why I am posting here. I feel like Doman is a resource that is so overlooked. It would give anyone a fantastic foundation. I hope that helps. If you want, I can post the excel spreadsheet I had but I hate to do that because then I don’t want the Atype personalities (myself included) using that as their daily curricula…

My thought was to ask you questions about your journey and save you a lot of typing. :slight_smile: This is what I have been thinking for awhile with lots of the moms. We all have so many questions and would love the inspiration of just being able to chat and get a peek inside what your life is like. What you have learned, etc… Think about it.

Wow, that sounds like an awesome idea. Then would you do an audio on Brillkids?

I am still checking to see how I can do this. I can probably have the audio interviews available on my website for anyone to listen to. I think it would be awesome to chat with some of the amazing parents and get to know them better and hear what they are doing and what they have learned. So, you are my first target. I should know more by tomorrow and we can see if we can set this up. I need to come up with the questions for you so you might know before hand what we will talk about. All the questions that have been asked so far are definitely going to be included.

Mandab just in case you were unsure. College in the US is the university system in Australia. The big exception is that US college has a general education requirement that Austrlalian university does not have.
We do have universities here in the US. A college becomes a university when it is large enough and the have a certain number of post graduate degrees. In my town the former college only became a university once it had purchased a large enough chunk of land for it to be one. But people just usually refer to university and college as college.
We also have something called Jr College or Community College. These are not quite like TAFE, but almost. They offer mostly academic 2 year associates degrees. Nursing might be a an exception. They are cheaper and an alternative way for sub par high school students to transfer into a full college or university.
We also have career or vocational high schools. Which is where the trades are taught. This is also, but not completely like TAFE. TAFE is a mix of community college and vocational high school.

Thanks! I was mixing up JR college and college by the looks of it. I also assumed university was the same as here. Interesting. Size still counts hey :wink:
In Australia now the trades are done in high school starting from grade 9/10 kids do one day a week on site doing a trade job and then do regular high school subjects and a TAFE subject in there trade as well on the other 4 days. All while enrolled at school. They do have other trade schools also but this trade pathway at school seems more popular now.
Aussie kids top of their classes can now do 2 units (1 a year!) in a university course in years 10 and 11 while enrolled in school. Pretty lame duel enrolment option if you ask me!
We don’t have any general education components. It is assumed kids will actually learn that in school before graduating. If they don’t they won’t get a high enough score to get into university. I suppose if the education system continues to decline (not that ours is declining all that much) eventually they may have to include it like in the US.
Most degrees here are 3 years long with two semesters of 4 subjects each. But there are 4 year degrees with specialisation or double qualifications. Are American degrees longer?

Krista perhaps you could start an EL podcast?

General education was limited in rural QLD when I was in school a little over a decade ago. I remember having a long discussion about it with my English teacher in year 12. Apparently in NSW and VIC they have a lot of general education. I am glad that has changed. Also as far as prerequisites we only had to do English in year 11 and 12. Maths and sciences could be dropped after year 10. And there was no foreign credit after year 8 Japanese. In year 9 and 10 we did have to choose a social studies. Either geography, history or civics.
The trade thing was an option almost 20 years ago when my brother was in school. That is what he did. From what I have been reading it is not too common here in the US. My American husband went to a trade school and we have one in our small town also.
The university dual enrollment thing is new to me. I am glad that then are having that option.

I love that idea, Mandy!

Mandy,
Firstly, congratulations! What an amazing achievement for you and your son (and father/partner?).
Secondly, I’m surprised this thread has fallen by the wayside already. I think it is a great privilege and opportunity to have you here and willing to answer questions and share your knowledge.
So, a few questions…
You mention a number of math curriculums. Did you do them all completely or just parts of them? Did you do the Doman dots? If so, did you see results and can your son still recognise quantity?
Do you speak other languages? If not, how did you teach them to a point where they are fluent?
What types of lessons did you pay for eg. Sport, music, languages?
How did you teach sport? And you mentioned they are now in club sports. What does club sports involve in the US in terms of training, time etc…
How do you “do it all”? Teaching the children plus normal household stuff?
What is your plan/hopes now? How many subjects will your son take at this stage? What else will you do?
Did you do all the running that Doman requires with your children? Just the thought of it makes me tired :). So does doman require creeping and crawling throughout the entire 6 years? I actually was under the impression that once they reached a certain number of miles in x amount of time and they had the correct form that they graduated on to the next physical skill (walking under the monkey bars?) and finished with creeping and crawling.
I would love to see an example of your schedule.
Looking back now what do you think was a key to your success and also what do you regret or wish you had done differently?
So much more I would love to know but that will do for starters :slight_smile:
Congratulations again!

Yeah! What she said but with videos :slight_smile: please

HI all

I am so happy to share whatever I can with you all. Although, I keep reiterating that I feel you are putting me on a pedestal and we have not arrived yet. Either way, I am happy to share if it will help all your selfless parents and lovely children. I am simply going to answer your questions and hope it sheds some light. I pray that this will inspire every single one of you to continue loving your children, as we all know, without love the brain will not respond.

You asked about math curriculum, that has become my fetish. I study, research and then employ. You must remember that my son just turned 9 and so some of the curriculum is already outdated. I used to use Singapore when you could only get the Asian version. Given the likes of Common Core (and if ANYONE wants me to tell you how detrimental this is to your children, I would be more than happy to expound), I am glad I did use those. I used a plethora of math curriculum since this is what my child loved. The likes of which were Singapore, Saxon, Math u See, Miquon, Kitchen Table Math and countless math story books eg. Sir Cumference. We did go through each of the books but as soon as he got a concept, we moved on. That being said, he did do Kumon so I felt like the drills would get anything I didn’t cover. We only recently stopped that at level K. He graduated from the Sr. Aloha Abacus and now teaches there.

He did Doman dots and has a good feel for it even now. When I show his brother he is usually off at most by 9. So it is great to see that is all processed and stored. Regarding other languages, I am South African and my husband is Swedish. I can say that Christian totally understands Afrikaans (and when he Holland and Belgium understood Dutch and Flemish) and is fluent in Swedish (understand Norwegian). He went to a Spanish preschool twice a week and we did 4 yrs of Chinese School but stopped when it got too technical i.e. strokes and not enough verbal learning.

The only class I ever paid for sports wise was Gymnastics. I was blessed that he did up to 13 hrs a day. Once he hit 7, I could pay for sports and that included Club soccer, Karate, Flag football, Swimming, Track etc. Yes, he does everything. But before 5, I solely concentrated on Doman and it was rigorous. The running is 3 times a day and you have to build up to three miles which is pretty substantial, even for myself. Crawling and creeping were set by the Doman PHD class. How did I do it? ONLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD!! And two wonderful Doman mommies that did it with me. Ask Gloria on this site, we laughed together and only too often CRIED together.

I honestly don’t know how I did it because back then we didn’t have Brillkids and I created all my own bits, while running my immigration business. Crazy days. I forfeited the normal LA lifestyle of going out for teas and coffees with friends and strapping babies to strollers. My life was and still is my children. I figure that I will have lots of time to devote to other things once they are all grown up. You don’t have to do it to the Nth degree like I did but once you go to the Institutes, you will realize what wonderful outcomes can come of it.

My hopes right now is that I haven’t ruined my son. I have seen such enormous growth from him in just one month at College. Learning to sit and take notes and answer questions and the toughest by far - GETTING HIM TO SIT THROUGH TWO AND A HALF HOUR LECTURE WITH NO BREAK!! He has learnt to deal with pressure and was just DEVASTATED to get 90% for his first exam. He has learnt to begin to see things in perspective when his peers were thrilled to get 72% for the same test. I am praying that his academic, spiritual and physical growth will all be met.

I had to pull him out of the Anthropology class given the content. Given his age he is literally the last person on campus to get a class, so it is to my discretion if I want him under the influence of the Lecturer (usually the bottom of the barrel). I faught to have him with the most perfect Prof. in math because this is his gifting and we got that. Regarding his options, there are so many out there if you are ready to fight for it. I could get him dual highschool and college credit and he could get his AA and transfer into Uni at 14. Do I want that??? Does he want that??? Probably not. For now, I am meeting him where he is at academically and hopefully, it will allow him to avoid all those boring hours of school. Thus trading them in for life experiences. We were thinking of spending a year or two in Europe, going to a Swiss finishing school or the like? Who knows.

Key to success, is much like my Christian walk, GRACE - GRACE - GRACE. Grace to myself if I don’t get through the 300 flashcards, 3 languages, piano, PHD course, math, school curriculum, monkey bars and a run. Grace to my boys on the days they simply can’t pull themselves together to do it and grace to my husband who used to think I was a nutcase. Now he simply marvels. We are both gifted parents and high achievers but did we reach our full potential, methinks not. This is what I am striving for in my boys. As are all of you. The regrets I have was not cutting myself enough slack and simply going to my to do list. I have such sweet memories of us learning our tables on the trampoline, doing our log rolls in the grass, throwing baby brother to each other across the water…

It is for this reason I am hesitant to post my daily curriculum. My A type personality used it as a checklist and I am scared that if I post it, people will take it as their daily schedule without their child’s interests. I know if someone had done that for me a few years ago, I would have jumped at it. So that being said, convince me otherwise and I will. God bless you all. You are such selfless parents and have definitely taken the road less travelled by. We don’t do it so our children will thank us, we do it because as a loving parent, it is the ONLY thing we can do.

Okay, now I have to go and put my tikes to bed. Hope that gave you a glimpse into our world. Krista, I hear what you are saying about all the typing :wink:

I think it would be pretty safe to post your daily schedules in here. The people who frequent this forum truly do love and understand their children. Plus they would have had to read through the rest of the thread and see there was love and laughter in your daily life too.

I think your safe to post your list. Everyone here is pretty good at modifying things to suit their family’s. I don’t think anyone is going to copy your list to a tee and forget the fun stuff that keeps their kiddos happy. But it might help them see if they are missing anything important.

I think that it is correct to say that most mums here just hope to fulfil their childrens’ potential. I do step back often to make sure there we are happy and that there is lots of love. As much as good intelligence, I hope that they will also attain great motivation to learn. Your schedule will be very helpful for us on this journey which is riddled with so much uncertainty. eg. I have wondered sometimes whether early reading could stifle creativity (comments here greatly appreciated) so instead of just reading books we also make up stories. These are hilarious sometimes like the camel who walked into a restaurant and refused to sit down. He then ordered popcorn which the restaurant didn’t have etc. A related question - how important is it to just focus on right brain development in the first 5 years (I assume that is how Doman weighs the curriculum?) or should there be a balance of right and left, and how did you manage that?

HI All

It has been quite fun to go back through my records and see exactly what we did. I use WE because I crawled these with him!! No wonder my knees ache. So here is the PHD program we did. This was for when he was 5. I didn’t start until he was three. Daily schedule to follow too.

This will make a lot more sense for those of you familiar with the phd course.

		Course = 	230	feet			
Times	Yards	Feet 	Total Feet	Laps			

wk 1 5 5 15 75 0.326086957 FABULOUS PROGRAM
wk 2 5 20 60 300 1.304347826 FABULOUS PROGRAM
wk 3 5 20 60 300 1.304347826 FABULOUS PROGRAM
wk 4 5 20 60 300 1.304347826 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 6 5 30 90 450 1.956521739 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 8 5 40 120 600 2.608695652 2.5 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 10 5 50 150 750 3.260869565 3.5 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 12 2 100 300 600 2.608695652 2.5 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
3375 14.67391304
2700 11.73913043
6075

wk 1 5 20 60 300 1.304347826 FABULOUS PROGRAM
wk 2 5 50 150 750 3.260869565 FABULOUS PROGRAM
wk 3 5 50 150 750 3.260869565 FABULOUS PROGRAM
wk 4 5 60 180 900 3.913043478 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 6 5 100 300 1500 6.52173913 6 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 8 5 150 450 2250 9.782608696 10 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 10 4 150 450 1800 7.826086957 8 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
wk 12 4 250 750 3000 13.04347826 13 EXCELLENT PROGRAM
11250 48.91304348
9450 41.08695652
15525
2.940340909

Here is what I did for one year of age… I have for each year. I am not sure if you want that…may be too much but you will get a feel for it.

[tabTIME DEVELOPMENT MONDAY TUESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY FRIDAY SATURDAY
Language Spanish Swedish Swedish Spanish Swedish Swedish
Sound Play Music cds Spanish Chinese French Japanese Chinese Vivaldi and Motzart
Environment Black & White in Crib Floor textures Side boards Colored Mobile Stick b/w around his room
RESULTS OF FIRST EVALUATION p.47 OF How smart is your baby

Doman Visual Competance/outline Colored Check board every waking moment Even on your way to sleep One new colored card a day and keep adding
Visual Competance/bits 10x/day of 1-3 bit cards, 10sec Retire one card per day and put a new one in per day repeat it for 1 week. Dots (1-10), Faces, Colored B/W bits (2 sets) Hold 12-18" away and say square for a few secs. When finished go to part 3&4
Visual Competance 5 pathways 10x/day of 30sec each Show flashcard Show word Taste fruit Smell fruit Touch fruit Different fruit every day
P.64 Checklist Auditory Program 10x/day of 10sec each, 10 stimulations Pots, pans, symbols, bells etc. “Now you are going 2hear blocks Stand 2 ft away and bang loudly, wait 3 secs, do it, 3, do it Each of the 3 times say Blocks Ask if he enjoyed it? Have fun
Tactile Program 10x/day @ 60sec Opposite textures bottle brush/tooth brush On arms, legs, hands, feet and torso Say “touch”
Tactile Program 5x/day 60sec of tickling/massage
Mobility: Inclined track 15x/day of 60sec(trip down track) Put track at 6-24” high Work to this. This is the only area that Lucas didn’t achieve perfect on. So use the abvoe to start with.
Mobility: track Min. 4hrs daily
Mobility:flat track Way of life! 3-18 hrs daily To grow mobility pathway Lie in prone position BE on the floor with him Even in his sleep crawling, marching, skipping
Mobility:Balance (p.169) 15x/day fo 15sec, then work to 45sec Twice daily Hold sitting up, Airoplane, rock side, rock up/down, rocking chair, pull forward & back, slide l/r, clockwise, shoulder spin L, spin on right shoulder, lift baby up/down, roll back2tummy, trot around house
Manual/Grasp reflex 15x/day fo 20sec, then work to30sec To grow manual competance Start holding a bar Gently pull baby toward you, stay for a few sec. then lower Say - Grasp From no weight to all weight
Manual/Prehensible grasp 10x/day for 60sec Pick up 1-3 objects of varying size small objects for 60sec.
Swimming Floating with his chin on my shoulder Floating on his back Blowing bubbles Bobbing up and down, passing under shower 10x nonstop, going underwater, jumping into bath, grasp sides of tub or thumbs, kisses!!!
Language (Ch.14) Ample opportunity to talk and listen to baby Listen to baby every waking moment
Language (Ch.14) Have a conversation 10x/day of 60sec
Language (Ch.14. p.124) Create specific sounds in poem 5x/day of 1-2 minutes
Language (Ch.14) Use a choice board How many times a day?
Language (Ch.14) Assigning a meaning to a sound New specific sounds today?
Others Games Put a bell on her sock Different color mitten Bell on mitten Attach string to foot and string to mobile, baby kicks Different color sock
Smells Flowers Herbs Perfume Flowers Herbs Perfume
Signing Eat Sleep Restroom - middle finger over forfinger and go up and down up and down More
Textures Flannel 100X Silk Velvet Linen Grass Say the word of the texture or rough/smooth etc.
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Sorry, I tried to paste it in a tab and it didn’t work. Here is the attachment. Hope that helps. As you can see, it was nothing stellar. Just following the guidelines.

Given the year, 2010 made Lucas 3 months old. I have one schedule per level of brain development that co-incides with Doman and again can post if interested.

I can see a number of things in that list that I don’t remember reading in the books. So I guess your comment re the course gives you more is true :slight_smile:
Many many of those activities wouldn’t take long at all and would be entirely feasible for any stay at home mum and frankly most of them could be done by childcare workers even in a group. They may struggle with getting it all done each day with multiple babies but it would be interesting to see a Doman inspired activity book for the childcare centres!
Ok now what’s for the next year :smiley:
Can you tell I am curious?
Oh and I forgot to mention. Congratulations to your son for getting a solid mark on his first assignment at college. He must have worked hard and focused on the key points to get that. Good effort!