I started doing the Doman math flash cards about 2 months ago. My husband thinks I am nuts and that I am trying to turn my kids into RainMan. I haven’t really seen anything from the kids to indicate that they get it like the reading program. I am still going to continue with it cause they seem to enjoy it, but I wonder if it is just that they love that I am spending time with them (which really isn’t a bad thing that they enjoy that.) We have finished the additon portion and have just started the subtraction portion. I try to do problem solving and just get blank stares. Just wondering if anyone has had sucess with the method.
Sigh, math is one thing that we havent’ done too much of. My excuse is that I’m waiting for Little Math to be done cos the Doman flashcards are too big and cumbersome!
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They are quite large and cumbersome. I have a really hard time flashing them with any sort of speed. I eagerly await Little Math, also. Why are you on-line posting? You should be working on that Beta of Little Math
Haha lol … Karma point to you for the, um, “encouragement”…
On a seperate tangent from that, how early in the “learning” has anyone seen results from YBCR or Baby Signing. I’ve been doing these two with Matteson for about two and a half months now and though she watches, I don’t think I’ve really seen any real comprehension. I thought perhaps she was reading the word clap becuase for three days in a row when that word came on she put her hands together, but now she dosen’t do that any more. I also thoguht perhaps we knew the sign for all gone/finished…but she seems to just randomly waive her hands like that now… I’m sure that in the long run, these plus Little Reader (and when ever we finally get little math, ha ha :tongue2:) will be beneficial, but am I expecting results to quickly??? I’d love to hear what others experiences are.
They say that for younger children (like your baby’s age), it will take longer to see results. Even though they don’t show signs of comprehension, they are still absorbing it all.
Hang in there Redheaded1. Nhockaday is right. You need a little more faith when starting YBCR with very small babies.
When I met Dr Titzer a couple of months ago he explained that it takes about 6 months before you notice that your baby knows some of the words. I started showing my second baby, Hayden, YBCR videos at 4 months and it is only in the last 6 or so weeks (after 5 to 6 months of viewing) that I am sure he is able to actually recognise words.
As soon as I learnt about YBCR in mid 2006 I ordered the videos and started showing them to my daughter who was 21 months. As Penny was much older then Hayden when starting the process, I was able to see very quickly that she was learning to read the words and it was no effort at all to make up games involving her toys to teach her many other words. She actually learnt new words in just 2 or 3 days.
It is such a joy to see her reading books now. Except for that short “stage” she had when she adopted the Dr Seuss line “I can read it all by myself” and I couldn’t enjoy books with her as she kept tellling me to go away.
I haven’t started the Doman Math Method yet with Hayden, but I have started my planning and am very excited about that journey too.
Thanks for the encouragement Mum! It’s nice to be reassured that it will work if we just stick to it. :biggrin:
Here is a video I found concerning results of teaching math
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4blI2FMSUQ
Hi, I am new to this forum and would like to share about my experience with the Doman mathematics method.
I started Glenn Doman’s math program a few months ago with my son when he had just turned 30 months old (which is considered the cut-off age). I was skeptical but hopeful, knowing I had nothing to lose and everything to gain if it really was true.
I am happy to report that all of Doman’s claims have proven to be true. Hunter can now tell the difference between a card with 98 and 99 dots on it, and can add, subtract, multiply, or divide any number instantly. He has never memorized his times tables, has never had equations “acted out” for him (i.e. adding three marbles to five marbles), yet when you ask him what 93 divided by 3 equals he eagerly points to the card with 31 dots on it in a pile of 29,30,33,31, and 32. His cousin, Anthony, who was ten months old when we began, knows the numbers up to 60 (I have not been able to finish with him because I stopped babysitting him in the mornings).
Sometimes I cannot believe my own eyes as they are doing instant math, but then I must remember that the ability to perceive 93 dots instantly (and know that it is indeed 93, not 94 or 92) is a BRAIN FUNCTION. I look at the cards and see polka dots: he sees 87. My EYES can see it, but my BRAIN cannot understand it. His brain can, and in fact all human brains can, if they are given the opportunity to do so at an early enough age.
I have seen only two other babies who have so far whose parents have taken them all the way through this program. One on youtube (shown above, looks like somebody already found this) and the other on a wonderful blog called domaninspiredparenting.blogspot.com. You can see my son and some articles about his math abilities at my blog worldsbesteducation.blogspot.com
I think that perhaps a major reason for the high FAILURE rate of this program is not in the babies, because indeed all babies are capable of learning far more than we could possibly teach them in FIVE lifetimes, and also because of the fact that perceiving quantity is a brain function that ALL humans are BORN WITH. But I would speculate that the main reason that their is such a high failure rate is because babies get BORED with it. I know that my son got bored with it after learning just TEN numbers, and refused to look at them, and we ended up taking a THREE MONTH break before he became interested again as the result of Mr. Math Lion, the fun-loving, very silly puppet who loves math and gobbles up dots.
When we started back up again I showed the numbers quickly and joyfully and didn’t test. Before I was somewhat slow because I didn’t think he really “got it”, and I went over the same numbers over and over again, testing him frequently. That is the best way I know of to kill the desire to learn math. Also, by the time we got to 60, I noticed that I was getting bored with it again. That’s when I picked up the pace, retiring three cards a day instead of two. I also taught equations using the computer, since I was too slow with the real cards.
The last thing I could see as a preventive method in preventing boredom is to start the programs in the order that Doman suggests: reading first, math next, encyclopedic knowledge last. If a baby is used to seeing masterpieces by Da Vince, species of butterflies, and organs of the body, looking at red dots for ten weeks may seem a little boring.
Math CAN be fun but you have to take the extra effort to be sure that you’re going fast enough so that your baby is asking for MORE, not begging you to stop. If he gets bored looking at five dot cards, then only show him three or two or even one at a time. It is far better for him to be seeing one number three times a day and ENJOYING it than to be seeing ten numbers three times a day and being bored with it.
As others have commented, the math program is a bit laborious. I was so motivated though, after I read the book, that I dove right into it and spent hours creating the materials and even more hours writing up equations and determining teaching schedules. However many parents aren’t this motivated and as such, I would like to share all of the resources I used so that other parents can do it more easily. It is so easy to teach: it’s the preparation part that takes the work! I made blank dot cards that you can print out of your computer. I also made PowerPoint presentations of dots 1-100. I also have written down all the possible addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division equations from 1-100. You can get all of this at http://worldsbesteducation.org/math.aspx. I’m soon going to be adding PowerPoint presentations for equations, and sample schedules you can use. I hope this helps!
It would be great if you could share them with our other members in the file download area!
Hi DomanMom,
Very glad to have you with us, and thanks very much for sharing your experience. It’s a great inspiration!
Any pictures or videos you could also share with us?
Hope to hear more from you!
I have some pictures and videos on my blog, but I can get some more on this site once I get it all figured out. I would like to get a video of Hunter doing his maths (I have one of him back in December on my site, but he only knew up to 12 then!) My computer doesn’t have the proper port to plug in my video camera, so that’s somewhat of a setback right now.
But thank you for the welcome, I’m glad to have found this site, it looks like a wonderful resource and a great community.
thank you for the information!
i have been trying to figure out how doman method works because i dont have the book or any literature with the instructions on how to start, what to start and how to progress as in terms of teaching the baby. my daughter is 14 months old and i want to start her with domans math coz im not in math and i struggled with it in school. i dont want my daughter having to go thru the same experience.
if you could give us a link or a site where the instructions are explained in a simple way – we would greatly appreciate it. thanks!
Have you read this thread? http://forum.brillkids.com/general-discussion-b5/gentle-revolution-and-glenn-doman’s-method/
Martina explains things quite well, and I’m sure she will answer questions you may have.
This is really amazing when you read about it. I can’t believe that more people don’t know about it. This is something that everyone should be hearing about so we can give our children all the advantages we didn’t have!!!
Thanks so much Domanmom for those details info and the links to your own material ! that would definitely be soooooo much help !
Hello DomanMom,
Thank you for sharing the wonderful experiences and difficulties you have had introducing math to your son Hunter.
I have been teaching my son Hayden to read since he was 4 months of age using YBCR and recently Little Reader and I am keen to get started teaching him math. I agree it is the preparation of each day’s program that takes up all the time. My husband thinks it is very amusing that it takes much longer to find my son and bring him to the computer or cards then it does to show him the 5 words.
Could you please let me know if it is important (especially in the early stages) to use 11" x 11" cards.
I note that you switched to the computer for equations. Have you noticed the same result using the computer and A4 size paper?
I am tossing up whether to use the large cumbersome cards. For reading I use YBCR DVDs, Little Reader on the computer and the relatively small hand written cards that I prepared when my daughter started YBCR 2 years ago, long before I was aware of the Doman method of teaching.
I also live in Australia and have experienced difficulties (already noted by at least one other frustrated Aussie member on this forum) getting timely replies (or even any reply at all) to my email enquiries to the US and Singapore for DVDs and kits.
Thank you again for your invaluable information.
I do not use 11 x 11 cards like Doman recommends, and I don’t believe the exact size is that important. I now use 8 x 11 cards for all of my bits of intelligence and math cards. This has saved me many hours of time because I simply print out all my cards on the computer.
When I first read the math book I followed the book’s instructions exactly and made my own cards with 11 x 11 poster board and 5,050 red circle dots. To make the entire set of cards from one to one hundred probably took somewhere around 20 hours of long, eye-crossing work. It also cost me around $50 dollars for all the supplies (not cheap!). You can’t really recommend this to friends.
Later I got the bright idea of making a set to print out on your computer so I can easily recommend it to other parents. The dots are .64 inches tall instead of .75 inches. That is not that much of a difference! You can use red dots like they recommend, or if you don’t have the ink you can simply use black. I made both sets. Red is better, but black dots are better than no dots! And babies still learn just the same. (I use black dots now, by the way).
About the computer equations; they work just as well as the printed, when it comes to how well the baby learns. Tiny kids can perceive quantities whether they are dots on a computer screen, birds in the air or toys on the floor. I have used both with my son (now three) and my nephew (who was one at the time) and the results of comprehension were just as good with both. The computer equations often can actually work better simply because you can show them faster - no shuffling! I also actually prefer the computer because then I don’t have to sort through all the number cards to find the right ones for the equations I’m doing. However, I do use the printed cards for games and equations almost every day so both work just fine - whatever works for your family.
Ever since I switched to 8 x 11 I have never looked back because it is SO much easier to be able to print out your materials off the computer. This saves countless hours of cutting and pasting. They are also much easier to store as you can keep them in standard folder files. I intend to collect thousands of bits over the years so storage is a key component. They are also much easier to laminate. I would recommend this size to all parents, even parents of very tiny babies, because eight inches high and eleven inches wide (or vice versa) is plenty big enough for developing eyes.
I also switched to printing my word cards out of the computer. The font size is 100 which is probably big enough for one year and up (maybe younger). I know this is much too small for very tiny babies, but I have seen quite a few examples of babies reading on YouTube, etc. and the font is no where NEAR the five inches Doman recommends. If your baby is at least a year I would recommend this because of all the time it saves. And saving time making the materials means more time you get to spend with your precious baby.
I hope this helps, God bless! Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions or comments.
Thank you again DomanMom.
It is most encouraging to hear from a mum who is using the process, it helps to convince those doubtful dads too. :laugh:
And as a mum I know how precious your time is, so thank you for taking time away from your family to help all the mums, dads and other carers here.