Swine Flu

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This is a summary by Dr. Mercola of a recent article that can be found on LewRockwell.com. The below was copied and pasted from mercola.com. Please inform yourself before lining yourself and your kids up for this vaccine.

This year it is more important that you protect your children and loved ones from the flu vaccines than influenza itself. This article on Lew Rockwell discusses how:

  1. The swine flu is simply another flu. It is not unusually deadly.

  2. This is the first time both seasonal and pandemic flu vaccines will be administered. Both seasonal flu and swine flu vaccines will require two inoculations. This is because single inoculations have failed to produce sufficient antibodies. This is an admission that prior flu vaccines were virtually useless. Can you trust them this time?

  3. Adjuvants are added to vaccines to boost production of antibodies but may trigger autoimmune reactions. Some adjuvants are mercury (thimerosal), aluminum and squalene. Why would you sign a consent form for your children to be injected with mercury, which is even more brain-toxic than lead?

  4. This is the first year mock vaccines have been used to gain FDA approval. The vaccines that have been tested are not the same vaccines your children will be given.

  5. Over-vaccination is a common practice now in America. American children are subjected to 29 vaccines by the age of two. Meanwhile, veterinarians have backed off of repeat vaccination in dogs because of observed side effects.

  6. Modern medicine has no explanation for autism, despite its continued rise in prevalence. Yet autism is not reported among Amish children who go unvaccinated.

  7. Researchers are warning that over-use of the flu vaccine and anti-flu drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza can apply genetic pressure on flu viruses and then they are more likely to mutate into a more deadly strain.

  8. Most seasonal influenza A (H1N1) virus strains tested from the United States and other countries are now resistant to Tamiflu (oseltamivir). Tamiflu has become a nearly worthless drug against seasonal flu.

  9. Public health officials are irresponsible in their omission of any ways to strengthen immunity against the flu. No options outside of problematic vaccines and anti-flu drugs are offered, despite the fact there is strong evidence that vitamins C and D activate the immune system and the trace mineral selenium prevents the worst form of the disease.
    For even more reasons, please review the full article on LewRockwell.com.

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Thanks for the post I was about to post this article as well!

here it is the video and direct link to the article for everyone to see.

karma to you !

Gloria

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw&feature=player_embedded#

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/06/Why-You-Should-NOT-Vaccinate-Your-Children-Against-the-Flu-This-Season.aspx

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So sorry for the lose of family. We here have several family members that has tested positive, one is to far to give the vaccine to, and yes it is a small child. A crew of my family (6) has tested positive after eating resteraunt food. They all ate the same thing, 1 hour later all were sick, next day tested positive. Be careful and pray. We have decided to stay in, dad is the only one that goes out to get what we need and to go to work, plus we home school. We do not allow people in our home without using sanitizer. Touching my chilldren is a no, along with other guidelines if you enter my home or my vehicle.
As far as vaccines go well I would rather not allow my children to recieve them but do to circumstances we don’t have a choice. Also I don’t know if your school systems do this but ours takes our children during school to the doctor or dentist with out the parents consent and recieves medical attention. The parents are not even called to inform the parents of this visit. They find out when the child returns home. Parents complain to me all the time, so that’s why they homeschool. I live in the US.

My mom said she was going to get a flu vaccination I informed her not to. We do not like recieving vaccinations for we ourselves have seen serious reactions when a child has been given the vaccines to many together at one time. It is to scary to even mention on here. One minute your child is fine the next hour your child is different.

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If you are concerned about the school issue and vaccinations, contact the following attorney to discuss your options. Not vaccinating should not prevent your child from attending any school of your choosing. If you decide to have this attorney draft you a letter to use with schools, the fee for preparing it is very reasonable. The fee includes ongoing consultation so that if a school has a problem with your letter, they are to contact the attorney and not you. He is located in New York but can help with any state.

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Mother of Faith, the situation you describe with children receiving medical treatments at school without parents’ consent cannot possibly be legal! Most schools will not dispense so much as an aspirin because of the legal and liability ramifications.

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Thanks for the info. The reason that they do this is because the parents or legal guardian have signed up for special assitance program so therefore the assistance program does this, so I guess who ever signed the application gave their permission even so they should still call before recieving treatment but they haven’t and the parents where unaware of this special service that this assistance program was giving. The child had a fever so they sent the child to the doctor, the child come home with a statement from the doctor, a school excuse. The parent was astonished and so was I. Maybe it is do to the swine flu? Who knows. I never would have thought that they would do this but if the school has a policy stating this then ?

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Okay, that makes more sense. It must be somewhere in the fine print of the program that parents don’t have to be notified prior to the child receiving medical attention. That’s pretty bad if it’s not made very obvious on the form, though.

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I plan on investigating it more though. It must be in there somewhere written.

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Latest article from Dr. Mercola on the swine flu. I found it to be a Great eye opening read. To long to attach, so I copied and pasted web site link.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/03/What-We-Have-Learned-About-the-Great-Swine-Flu-Pandemic.aspx

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Dear Everyone,

Please find below some practical information that I received in an email from a friend.

  • Ayesha

Prevent Swine Flu - Good Simple Advice

(Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensive Care and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, Saifee Hospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading the Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).

Preventing Swine Flu: The only portals of entry are the nostrils, ears and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it’s almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock up on N95 or Tamiflu):

  1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
       

  2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all20temptations to touch any part of face or put your fingers in your mouth.
       

  3. Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you prefer it to salt water). H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

      

 4. Similar to 3 above, clean your ears out with drops of hydrogen peroxide; clean nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (Neti Pot is a very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), although it is easy to do once you get used to it...but blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.  (Neti pots and sinus rinse kits are available at the drug store, or online, and are relatively inexpensive. under $15.  
        

 5. Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). If you supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc, or you can take extra zinc, to boost absorption.

                  
 6. Drink as much of warm liquids, such as tea, as you can. Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. It washes off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
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Well, our local media has just been over the top about their reporting. Yesterday, on the radio the news caster was saying something like “Please, don’t camp outside of the clinics. There will be enough vaccine for all of the high priority groups.” Camp outside of clinics??? C’mon now, it’s like freezing at night, who would even think to do that. I don’t like the level of manipulation in the reporting, making people think they should be desperate for the shot and that everyone else is desperate and only the lucky ones that get up early in the morning will get it. My son doesn’t get shots, I used to get them but I don’t anymore, my husband doesn’t really get sick so he doesn’t bother.

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At a family party over the weekend our family members were telling how they had to wait hours in line for the shot, grandma wasn’t able to get one because she wasn’t high priority, and the 4 kids got different types of vaccines depending on their priority such as the nasal spray, the shot, etc.

My husband and I do vaccinate our child for measles, mumps, etc. But we have decided not to vaccinate for H1N1, mostly because we think its rediculously overhyped, and think some of the vaccines are more harmful than the virus itself.

Our family was kind of surprised when we said we weren’t getting the shots, I said well if we die from it, then we die from it, but from what we’ve researched it seems like a mild virus and is being incredibly misdiagnosed, and we’d rather take our chances. I think it’s insane that the media is causing people to panic. People are waiting over night here to get vaccines, outside, in the cold. It’s COLD here. They will get more sick from waiting outside in the cold than they would get from H1N1

I do feel bad when I hear of pregnant mothers and their babies dying from it, but I am curious to know how often this happens with the regular flu as well. Is it a higher # or are they only reporting H1N1 stats.

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Here is some researched info about this, but for more, you can visit the link:

Facts about Flu Vaccinations, Risks, Pregnant Woman and Babies:

It is interesting to note that babies respond poorly to either the seasonal flu vaccine or the H1N1 vaccine. One of the largest studies ever done, found that children below the age of 2 years received no protection at all from the seasonal flu vaccine.

(The Cochrane Collaboration: Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, 2006 (1). Article number CD004879. In this review that analyzed 51 studies involving more than 260,000 children and found that below age 2 years, the seasonal flu vaccine offered no protection and those older than 2 years, only 33 to 36% had protective antibody response. (See Neil Z. Miller. The Vaccine Safety Manuel for more information).

The recently completed study on the effectiveness of the new H1N1 vaccine reported by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease found that 75% of small children below age 35 months received no protection from the H1N1 vaccine and that 65% of children between the ages of 3 years and 9 years received no protection from the vaccine.

(NIH News: http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2009/H1N1pedvax.htm.)

Initial Studies Show H1N1 NOT Dangerous or Highly Contagious

Once the pandemic had been declared, virologists tested the potency of this virus using a conventional method, that is, infecting ferrets with the virus. What they found was that the H1N1 virus was no more pathogenic than the ordinary seasonal flu, even though it did penetrate slightly deeper into the lungs. It in no way matched the pathogenecity of the 1917-1918 H1N1 virus.

It also did not infect other tissues, and especially important, it did not infect the brain.
Next, they wanted to test the ability of the virus to spread among the population. The results of their tests were conflicting, but the best evidence indicated that the virus did not spread to others very well. In fact, an unpublished study by the CDC found that when one member of a family contracted the H1N1 virus, other members of the family were infected only 10% of the time – a very low communicability. We personally have been in contact with number of people who got ill during this season, light case of flu, some confirmed swine flu strain, all these sicknesses were 3-4 days of light flu symptoms. And we have not gotten sick.

This was later confirmed in a study of the experience of New York State, in which only 6.9% of the population contracted the virus, far below the 50% predicted by the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology

(2. Maines TR et al. Transmission and pathogenesis of swine-origin 2009 A(H1N1) influenza viruses in ferrets and mice. Science 2009;325: 484-487.
3. CDC report: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/surveillance.htm. )

Flu Vaccine DOUBLES Risk of Getting H1N1

It is also important to view this in the face of the new unpublished Canadian study of 12 million people that found getting the seasonal flu vaccine, as recommended by the CDC and NIH, doubles one’s risk of developing the H1N1 infection. It would also make the infection much more serious.

Pediatric Flu Deaths by Year Made WORSE by Flu Vaccine
• 1999 – - 29 deaths
• 2000 – - 19 deaths
• 2001 – - 13 deaths
• 2002 – - 12 deaths
• 2003 – - 90 deaths (Year of mass vaccinations of children under age 5 years)
• 2006 – 78 deaths
• 2007 – - 88 deaths
• 2008 – 116 deaths (40.9% vaccinated at age 6 months to 23 months)

(MMWR. Influenza Vaccination Coverage Among Children and Adults – -United States, 2008 – 09 Influenza Season. Oct 9, 2009/58 (39); 1091-1095.)

Parents should also keep in mind that this study, as well as the Australian/New Zealand Study found that childhood obesity played a major role in a child’s risk of being admitted to the ICU or dying. This is another dramatic demonstration as to the danger of obesity in children and that all parents should avoid MSG (all food-based excitotoxin additives), excess sugar and excess high glycemic carbohydrates in their children’s diets. This goes for pregnant moms as well.

Every Parent Needs to Know Other Vaccines INCREASE Risk of H1N1

One major factor being left out of all discussion of these vaccines, especially those for small children and babies, is the effect of other vaccinations on presently circulating viral infections such as the H1N1 variant virus. It is known that several of the vaccines are powerfully immune suppressing. For example, the measles, mumps and rubella virus are all immune suppressing, as seen with the MMR vaccine, a live virus vaccine.12, 13

This means that when a child receives the MMR vaccine, for about two to five weeks afterwards their immune system is suppressed, making them highly susceptible to catching viruses and bacterial infections circulating through the population. Very few mothers are ever told this, even though it is well accepted in the medical literature.

In fact, it is known that the Hib vaccine for haemophilus influenzae is an immune suppressing vaccine and that vaccinated children are at a higher risk of developing haemophilus influenzae meningitis for at least one week after receiving the vaccine.10,14 These small children receive both of these vaccines.

According to the vaccine schedule recommended by the CDC and used by most states, a child will receive their MMR vaccine and Hib vaccine at one year of age and both are immune suppressing.

At age 2 to 4 months, they will receive a Hib vaccine. Therefore at age 2 to 4 months, and again at age one year, they are at an extreme risk of serious infectious complications caused by vaccine-induced immune suppression. The New Zealand/Australian study found that the highest death in the young was from birth to age 12 months, the very time they were getting these immune-suppressing vaccines.6

The so-called healthy children and babies that have ended up in the hospital and have died may in fact be the victims of immune suppression caused by their routine childhood vaccines. We may never know because the medical elite will never record such data or conduct the necessary studies. Recall also that the seasonal flu vaccine, which is recommended for all babies 6 months to 35 months, is also immune suppressing because of the mercury-containing thimerosal in the vaccine.15

If parents allow their children to be vaccinated according to the CDC recommendations, that is 2 seasonal flu vaccines and 2 swine flu vaccines as well as a pneumococcal vaccine, that will increase the number of vaccines a child will have by age 6 years to 41. This amounts to an enormous amount of aluminum and mercury as well as intense brain inflammation triggered by vaccine-induced microglial activation.16

(12. Nanan R, et al. Measles virus infection causes transient depletion of activated T cells from peripheral circulation. J. Clinical Virology 1999; 12; 201-210.
13. Schneider-Schaulies J et al. Receptor interactions, tropism, and mechanisms involved in morbillivirus induced immunomodulation. Advances Virus Research 2008; 71: 173-205.
14. Mawas F et al. Suppression and modulation of cellular and humoral immune responses to Heaemophilus influenzae type B (HiB) conjugate vaccine in hib-diptheria-tetanus toxoids-acellular pertussis combination vaccines: a study in a rat model. J Infectious Diseases 2005; 191: 58-64.
15. Pollard KM, et al. Effects of mercury on the immune system. Metals and Ions in Biological Systems 1997; 34: 421-440.
16. Blaylock RL and Strunecka A. Immune-glutamatergic dysfunction as a central mechanism of the autism spectrum disorders. Current Medicinal Chemistry 2009; 16: 157-170.)

These are just most important snippets of info, for more, you can check the link

http://products.mercola.com/swine-flu/20091103.htm

I had to study it not just as a parent, but also as a person who works with mothers and newborn babies, so thought to share it with those who are interested… Hope it helps. And in the long run, after informing ourselves, it is totally individual choice of parents what and how to do for the best of their children, not because someone told them what to do and what not to do!

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INTERESTING!!!

Again look at the information and make an informed decision for your family.

I wish I knew how to download video from youtube but here is the link.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/731.html